L G you took the words right out of my mouth. The Republicans are in no position to go against Immigration Reform. They are in desperate need of friends.

Apple Pie? They need to get over the "father knows best" image of Mom standing in front of the kitchen after sleeping on pin curls all night taking a fresh baked apple pie out of the oven with her cute little apron on. It might have worked 55 years ago but the US has evolved and most people really aren't all that into apple pie anymore. That is family values to them! A picture perfect old black and white sitcom.

Who would have ever thought they would compromise their "family values"  plan to energize voters with the "split of family's plan". Do they make sense? It is transparent that they never had family values because every step of the way they seem to rip apart and segregate people on all levels.

They aren't happy campers when it comes to "woman's rights". Nor are they happy campers when it comes to gays and marriage. They called a friend of mine the other day and asked the question...Do you think marriage should stay between a man and a woman? Don't they have any better questions to ask considering our economy has fallen apart and our healthcare system has fallen apart.

They are like big huge dinosaurs and soon we are going to see the last of them over in an exhibit at the museum of natural History in NY. How about nameing the exhibit "The Funny Farm".

I detest both sides equally, although the G.O.P. isn't in control at this point. You can blame them for being prejudice, bias, even out-dated, but right now, the fault lies on the left.

You already know you hate the right, and that they don't support The Dream Act. So, how is beating the dead horse, going to get anybody anywhere? You know the left said, they would support immigration reform and yet nothing is being accomplished.

My question, when looking at the immigration situation, for both sides, is: "why?"

Why should they support The Dream Act?

 Why shouldn't they Support The Dream Act?

How we "feel," can't be put into legislation. I see both sides, so I can argue both. I suggest,(if Prerna would?) make a column for both sides.  Have the commentary fill them in. If the benefits of The Dream Act outweigh the downfalls, we'll have our answer. We just have to remember, personal feelings and stories must be set aside, and "facts," need to be stated.

(Hillary, where ever you might be;"Mexicans not keeping their lawns up, and having cars on blocks in front of their homes," isn't a valid reason to oppose The Dream Act. This is also preffered yard decor, for white-trash and hillbillies. This would be  a poverty issue, not an immigration issue.)

The Bush administration tried to pass reform but the problem is that in that bill they tried to give America a permanent "cheap labor" workforce with a long term "guest worker" status. Can you imagine 11.8 million in that status with no path to citizenship. Many Democrats did support Bush but the ones that were strongly backed by Unions went against it. Personally I think all the Dems should have voted yes and later worked on changing the guest worker status to a path to citizenship. Voting against that bill was a big mistake.

The Obama administration is holding out because they economy is a mess and I think they have a political strategy. I went to a Democratic Gala tonight and after hearing a great speech the line that resonated with me was "demographics have shifted nationwide and the minority majority has grown". The other day I was concerned and "fearful" that we could lose senate seats in the next election but then that speech made me feel confident again. I realized that the game just might be over for the GOP for a real long time.

Our country is a mess but without Obamas stimulus we would have been living in a deeper hole. I did think originally that he would address Immigration sooner but I am seeing the political reality....and yes it is political.

The only way to push Reform forward faster is to have demonstration/protests but when is the timing right. Does the movement wait until unemployment lowers and after healthcare reform is passed?

Oh and L.S. you just made me laugh because I remember those anti-Mexican posts Hilary made. They were horribly cruel and that was a poverty issue she was taking out on the dream act.

But Mary refresh my mind... I thought the last Bill didnt suceed because too many Republicans were opposed to it, not because the lack of Democrat support.

And then yes there are stronger issue like Health Reform that have to be fixed first, then the economy, I am afraid that there isn't enough time before next year's election to aproach CIR. you know I really hope and pray for more republicans loosing their Senate seats

Hi L G. I have tried to study that final count over and over again trying to figure out if they tried to pass it again if it has possibilitys. I think 15 Republicans voted yes....and don't quote me until we look it up. You could google it and get the numbers and I have them copied somewhere. I think around 15 Democrats voted against it?? Something like this?? which made that a wash.

When you look at the whole thing the Republicans did block it but you have to look at the numbers and figure we did gain more seats in the senate this prior election. The thing that scares me is we need to pick a few more seats up in the next election but if all the Democrats voted for it this time and none of the Republicans did it would get blocked again.

We need all the Democrats to support it. We can not afford have any of them voting against it. I think under the Obama Umbrella we will get there votes but then we might lose the 15 Republicans? but I do believe we have Olympia snowe from Maine and she is a good Republican.

I am afraid that you might be right. This summer might be the right time to go for it providing the unemployment drops to around 7%. Then Obama could say look everyone we have healthcare reform and unemployment is going down with a healthier stockmarket. Then he could tell the public it is necessary to continue the work and bring the 11.8 million out of the shadows and the Dems will go with it and hopefully enough Republicans will pull it over. It is possible.

Oh and I think 1 guy in the senate didn't vote at all. I think he was a democrat that was in critical condition in a hospital?

(The republican party isn't about the Cleaver Family of America. We're a sinking ship with almost 10% unemployment and a currency that is on the brink of collapse. ALL immigration must halt until our ship can float, again.)

That doesn't make much sense to me Denver. The undocumented live here "They are here right now". How can you slow it down or stop it  and I thought the republicans mentioned they wouldn't approve of a path to the people here already without additional guest workers allowed in the new bill. "Correct me if I am wrong"? but that is how I understood it. If republicans wanted to "halt" then why would they be most interested in guest worker programs. Are they nuts?Guestworkers without a path to citizenship end up overstaying their visa's. I think Republicans could care less about the sinking ship. They have yahts and estates where they watch the ship go down on their huge Plasma TV. curled up with their glass of wine in front of their crackling fireplace. Republicans don't care about the middle class.

Did the republicans halt much when the borders were pourous during the Bush administration...and did they do much to stop the "cheap labor" magnet? They let the employers get away with murder meanwhile they put on a witch hunt for immigrants show. They really showed us that they no how to punish "workers".

Deporting 11.8 million Denver? Totally unrealistic and not a positive thing for the sinking ship. The GNP? The budget? With the costs of deportation? and Americans do not want that. How about use that money for another stimulus that creates enough jobs for 2 million more of those people? and I am sure that many of those who would be sent on a path would create more jobs. Open a business, buy a house, a car, book a vacation to go travel to home and back. I have often thought that would boost the airlines and travel agents.

I think bringing the undocumented out of the shadows would benefit the middle class and the poor. The reason why it has not been passed and why the Republicans are against it is they want their "cheap labor" and they can get away with offering their employers healthcare benefits. Keeping the undocumented in the shadows only benefits the Rich and makes them Richer.

We won't know Wire until we take a cenus, now will we?