(Conducted By Pulse Opinion Research)

You are going to compare a "Pew" poll with this stupid poll with dumb questions.

*Now I realize are the one that has an Attention Span like a Puppy on Crack!!

Even the poll commissioned by a nativist front group found a majority (53%) in support of "a pathway to citizenship or amnesty for illegal immigrants currently in the workforce."  Amnesty for illegal immigrants!  I guess they'll have to try again.

Excellent Dave! I took a guess that the worse case scenerio would show results of ten points less in their favor.

I tend to believe the 63% of pew is the most acurate one....So to be fair we could say that worse case scenerio would be give us an average of 58%.

Wow! We were talking about Micheal Jackson last night and the last thing I heard was he had a heart attack and is in a Coma?

Also Farah Fawcett died. I really liked Farah Fawcett.

Typical for you Mary, your ignorance on display for all to see.

Dave, this poll gives the CBS poll more credence then the PEW poll. The point I previously made still stands, the larger majority do not want a path to citizenship, but a path to legality through non-immigrant visas. I am one of them.

25% Somewhat support
18% Somewhat oppose

This poll also brings up many other issues that are opposite to what others in here spout. Specifically questions 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17.

Immigration has a negative impact on the environment?  Why doesn't the U.S. take a look at how other countries are so much more advanced in providing alternative energy sources for all of its citizens.  Look at Germany and their solar revolution.  Maybe we should hire more immigrants who are knowledgeable in these fields. 

Immigration has a negative impact on business?  It actually feeds the economy (and I'm not talking about just the lawyers.)   I see so many businesses that were set up by immigrants that have fueled employment for Americans.  Most immigrants have an entrepreneurial spirit.  They are survivors. 

Immigration negatively impacts education?  Is it really wise to continue to isolate younger generations to a monocultural, monolingual environment.  We're doing them a disfavor by isolating them and leading them to believe they'll be the most successful simply because they are American.  Cross-cultural thinking is a business strategy and education is business.  Go back to my previous point about immigration being good for business.

Immigration has a negative impact on quality of life?  Then why are cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, and Boston some of the most sought after and most expensive places to live in the US.  These are some of the citiies with highest immigration populations. 

If you want to read about immigration statistics and affects on US economy and quality of life, check out: http://www.ilw.com/articles/2008,0107-kelley.shtm. 

This articles sources are Harvard economists, US Census data, the White House Council of Economic Advisers, the Economic Report to the President, the Social Security Administration, and the National Foundation for American Policy.

LA, Houston, Knoxville, Dallas Metro, etc all have SMOG problems along with many other major metropolitan areas in the USA. They are overpoplated, water is rashioned, people are becoming sick due to air quality, etc.

Solar is already becoming a booming business here, new homes are being built with solar shingles putting energy back into the grid. We had Nuclear power, but Ten years ago today, ending a wrenching debate, a slender majority of voters slammed the door on the Sacramento Municipal Utility District's struggling Rancho Seco nuclear plant. A decade later, energy analysts say, SMUD has lower rates, lower debts and better prospects than it could have achieved even with a smoothly running Rancho Seco...Two things no one expected -- declining natural gas prices and the dawn of electric industry competition -- have contributed to drive electricity costs down and put nuclear plants nationwide in an economic vise.

I hate to break it to you, but the report you ae getting your info from has you fooled.

Your linked report fails to distinguish the earnings summary between 'immigrants' and 'illegal immigrants'. Please read section 2, on page 5, paragraph 2, and sentence #6 of the cited report White House Council of Economic Advisers, Immigration's Economic Impact. Washington, DC: Executive Office of the President, The White House, June 20, 2007 from your ILW link: "The surplus is larger for high-skilled immigrants ($198,000) and slightly negative for those with less than a high school degree (-$13,000)."

The $198,000 would be high skilled immigrants, those here legally, while the negative $13,000 would be the 'ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS' due to the fact that most here 'ILLEGALLY' don't have a high school education. Therefore, ILLEGALS are a BURDEN to the ECONOMY over their lifetime.

Please see this report which is cited from the above report: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-Immigration.pdf

The Impact of Unauthorized
Immigrants on the Budgets of
State and Local Governments
DECEMBER 2007

Quick summary here:
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2007/12/17/daily19.html

Congressional study shows illegal immigrants sap tax dollars

Looks like there is a fly in the room Michelina....Do you have a good fly swatter?

Therefore, ILLEGALS are a BURDEN to the ECONOMY over their lifetime.

Only if you assume they're getting a fair wage for their work, which they are not since they don't have legal protections to negotiate a fair wage with the employer. 

Also I feel a strong urge to delete any comment with the derogatory use "illegals" as you do, esp. in caps.  It's a slur, it's clear you don't respect them as human beings.

If they are receiving a paycheck, for which your side claims they pay into SS and Medicare all the time, they are receiving at least minimum wage, which is a fair wage. They accept the wages, besides most make more than $8 per hour, which is in fact more than minimum wage. Look to Postville, they were shown to have been making $10 per hour or more.

As for a "fair" wage, that wage is determined by the employer and the employee and the agreement they come to. The employee is the one that accepts the wage to work, so please define what afair wage is.

Or are you then claiming they lower wages for the rest of the workers in that industry. Which I would agree with, but making them legal, in the since of the word, would not change the fact of what they are being paid unless they quit their job and moved on, or they form a union which does not happen overnight and can result in other unintended consequences, look at GM. To a small company that would be devestating, to the employees, they would be out of work.

I say PFIR is a thinly-disguised nativist / exclusionist group. Its members may consider themselves progressive on other issues. This here liberal thinks they're full of it.

How can they be full of it Mary Hopkins, if as Dave points out, they poll the same as any other poll out there. It is all the other issues that they bring up in their poll questions, I think you are discounting that. They do have a profound effect on the nation, as recognised by this poll.

Actually, "racial" categories are social inventions. They vary from culture to culture. Biological anthropologists will tell you that they're all fictions, and having been trained as an anthro. I think they're correct. We're all of mixed origin.

What is generally true is that groups of people have a tendency to mistrust individuals or groups they think are "outsiders" and they do this partly on the basis of physical appearance. Part of our primate inheritance -- monkey troops do the same thing. It's not a tendency that we ought to be proud of.

And Actually Mark, The official race categorys are Caucasion, African American, Hispanic and Asian. Being Italian American I am aways confused when I look at an application; although I fall into the white Causasion category I always sit there and doodle my pen for a while because I haven't felt all that white growing up.

I'm wondering why you leave out Native American/Alaskan Native, Mary, since they are on teh Official Racial Category list. Are they not worthy in your mind?

What you are stateing as Hispanic, Mary P., is an ethnicity not a race, but with your superior intellect, you knew that right? Now since more than 3 out of 4 Aliens who enter without inspection are Hispanic, that makes this an argument of Nationality and not about race.