Immigration

My Name is Maria and I am an American

Published March 06, 2009 @ 06:00AM PT

I have decided that a tiny little piece of paper and a 9-digit number are not going to decide what I am or what I am not. I don't define myself by my undocumented status. Yes, I am undocumented, but I am an American first.

I am an American because of the pride I feel when I hear The Star-Spangled Banner and the pride I felt when I saw our first black President take the oath of office; only 45 years after Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I am an American because I love this country and what it stands for. I am an American because this is my home.

I was born in Lima, Peru and lived there for the first 12 years of my young life. My parents had lost their business and only source of income due to the economic situation of the country. As my parents struggled to find jobs to keep our family afloat, they were left with no choice but to keep me out of school for a year as they could not afford it. This is not what parents want for their kids, and this is not what my parents wanted for me. This is why they finally decided to seek a better future in "the land of opportunity;" to provide my siblings and I with the tools necessary to build a good life.

October 2000 marks the day I stepped foot on U.S. soil for the first time. My parents had told me and my siblings that we were going to Disney World for vacation. Part of me knew better, but I wasn't going to argue with them...I was going to go see Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse! Little did I know that would never happen. I haven't been to Disney World to this day. Despite the disappointment, I was thrilled to be in America, a place I had only seen in movies and television shows. It was more beautiful than I had thought.

My first year in the U.S. was difficult as I began to adjust to a different culture and a new life. My parents enrolled me in 9th grade a month or two into the school year. Not only was it nerve-racking because I was the new foreign kid, but also because I hadn't been to school in more than a year. The first class I took was ESL, but it became boring after a few months as I began learning the language and carrying conversations without difficulty. The rest of my classes were regular classes, which were both exciting and challenging. I remember my first time reading Romeo and Juliet and learning about the Civil War. While I wasn't aware of my undocumented status yet, I knew my parents had abandoned their life in Peru to provide me with a better education and future, and I wasn't going to disappoint them. I finished my freshman year with top grades.

Sophomore year flew by and without thinking I began to identify myself as an American more and more. I had become fully assimilated to the American culture and I loved learning about the history of this country, starting with the Revolutionary War to the Civil War, to the Civil Rights Movement and the fight for equality. Then junior year began and my hopes and dreams came crashing down. It was the time to start applying for college and I had my mind on a few already. I took as many college applications from the guidance office as I could and was ready to fill them out. It was then when I realized I couldn't go to school because I didn't have the magic 9-digit number. Disappointment does not even begin to describe the way I felt when I found out I couldn't continue my education. My parents wanted a better future for me and I was going to let them down. It was heart breaking watching my friends get accepted to the schools of their choice while I was stuck in neutral. I tried not to let this get me down and I was able to graduate high school with top grades, despite an uncertain future.

A year went by and I was getting more and more frustrated about my situation. I wanted to go to school; I wanted to be a normal 19 year old. My frustration led to determination to find a college that would let me study. I researched and called several schools until I was accepted as an international student at the community college in my area. I knew paying international rates for classes would be a challenge, but the truth is I didn't care. I was finally able to attend school and I wasn't going to let money stop me. Thankfully, I was able to save up enough money during my year off to take two classes. I am still attending community college taking two to three classes per semester, and paying for them is still difficult without any financial help but I am not giving up. I currently hold a 4.0 GPA and I am three classes away from finishing my two years of college. My plan is to transfer to Penn State University to finish my four years as a political science major. My dream is to one day work for an organization like the American Civil Liberties Union and fight to defend the rights and freedoms of those who need it, to always be politically active, and to help make the average citizen feel like they can truly make a difference.

Just like me, there are thousands of students facing the same obstacles. We consider ourselves American, but are denied the opportunity to attend college and work legally. We don't want or expect "freebies." What we want is a chance to prove what an asset we can be to this country we call our home. We want to be the future nurses, doctors, teachers, and engineers that will shape this country's future and continue to make it great.

The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act is a bipartisan piece of legislation that would give students in the same situation conditional legal status if they meet certain requirements. This bill would give us a chance to attend college or enlist in the military for at least two years and help us toward a path to citizenship to finally have that piece of paper that is so needed in this country.

Despite all of these obstacles, I am thankful to be living in this country and my patriotism has not wavered. We, DREAMies, are not asking much; just the opportunity to give back a little of what this country has given us. We won't give up hope and will continue to work hard to finally make our dreams a reality.

If you want to learn more about the DREAM Act and ways you can help, please visit www.dreamACTivist.org

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  1. Tony T

    So you admit your family came here on a vacation to Disney and decided to stay illegally?

    I'm sorry,  you are not an American.   You can believe all you want,  but you are not American.

    I would welcome you if you and your family were legal immigrants.  

    But you are not an immigrant.  Immigrants are people who go through the legal process of obtaining entry into this country.

    You and your family are trespassers.   I feel for your country's economic situation,  but I feel a great deal more for the unemployed Americans who need the jobs you would take.

    You,  and others,  will say my message is about hate.   But I don't hate you,  or your family.    I just realize this country has borders and an immigration process for valid reasons.   This country needs to take care of it's own poverty and unemployment epidemic.  

    Why don't you and your family strive for political change in your country?    Why don't you try to remedy your country's problems?   Why must my country accomodate anyone who mysteriously arrives amoungst our citizens?   Why should we accomodate people,  who by their very presence,  demonstrate a contempt and lack of respect for our laws?  

     

    Posted by Tony T on 03/06/2009 @ 05:10PM PT

  2. Prerna Lal

    Tony, you need a lesson in how neo-liberalism and U.S. foreign policies are precisly what encourages what you call a mass influx of 'aliens.'

    Multi-national corporations headquartered in the United States exploit cheap labor sources in foreign countries, buying up farm land for private production, thus rendering millions of workers landless. In the meanwhile, we continue to fight so-called just wars as a way to steal the precious commodities of other countries like oil. Who do we blame when our foreign policies have created dire-enough conditions that force people to leave everything they know to take a chance at life in a foreign land?

    Sure, we cannot blame the United States for trying to limit the influx of workers crossing the border or returning them home but we can certainly hold the United States accountable for a CAPITAL WITHOUT BORDERS. By not regulating capital flight, regulating the movement of migrant bodies and encouraging the intrusion of neo-liberal policies into developing and underdeveloped countries, the United States-with 85% of the voting power on the IMF-gives capital and corporations a major advantage over workers. Who do we blame when capital sneaks across borders, rapes, pillages and plunders lives, and destroys debt-ridden countries struggling with SAPs, hence forcing people to migrate North as a way to survive and start over?

    No human being can be illegal-it is not a permanent immutable characteristic. Lets stop criminalizing the natural and age-old phenomenon of human migration.

    Posted by Prerna Lal on 03/06/2009 @ 08:45PM PT

  3. Tony T

    Neo-Liberal.   Huh,  congrats on the new catch phrase.   A few years back everything bad was the doing of Neo-conservatives.

    And you still haven't explained why these individuals need to escape THEIR country's economic problems by coming to my country.

    Why,  don't they strive to improve their lives in THEIR country.   In THEIR society.  If this country's deeds around world are so evil it makes them flee their country why the hell do they desire to come HERE to the place that allegedly gave birth to their perceived evils???

    I love my country,  I would never flee from it's problems.   I would strive to change them.   And if I did leave,  I wouldn't flee to the arms of the "oppressor" like some love sick puppy.   I would never turn my back on my country and I don't understand the mentality of those who "cut and run".

    Posted by Tony T on 03/06/2009 @ 10:59PM PT

  4. Prerna Lal

    Both of you are missing the point that it wasn't Maria that fled anything or made any decision to come here.

    America is her country. Period.

    She has contributed to it more than either one of you trolling on these threads do. When is the last time you did any community service and outreach work? When is the last time you tried to make this country better?

    None of you have any warrants or intellectual arguments against the double consciousness of immigration reform to provide so you stoop to ad-homs and mis-information.

    It is pointless to attack immigrant youth not to mention utterly shameful. It's not like Maria and I would stop working for our civil rights -- it just makes us work harder and laugh back because we know we will prevail. The arc of justice is on our side. There is really nothing you can say or do to change that.

    Posted by Prerna Lal on 03/07/2009 @ 09:22PM PT

  5. Helen, I find it curious that your profile has absolutely no information on it other than to note the discussion threads on which you troll. Are you afraid to come out in the open with your hatred and bigotry? You realize, don't you, that the Klan also hid their identities from the world, at the same time they promoted their xenophobic ideas.  Good job in keeping up those archaic American traditions! Particularly those that are most embarrassing and un-American!

    Posted by Kristen S on 03/09/2009 @ 05:25PM PT

  6. Khyron Elric

    Sorry that you this way Tony T, but so far I came here the same way that Maria did, I do have a legall permit but let me tell you this, because of the scarcity in my country I see the value in things that America youth can't I see white people more interested in their phone than in their class. Latinos (Salvadoreans) knows that value of thinks and we deserved the chance to take what American youth don't apreciate.

    Posted by Khyron Elric on 03/14/2009 @ 12:44AM PT

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  8. Maria M.

    Tony, I didn't choose to come to this country, my parents decided this would be best for me. I'm sure you know that coming here legally would have taken many many many years and I doubt you care. But try to put yourself in my parents' shoes, who couldn't pay for my education anymore. If you had a daughter, wouldn't you want her to get an education and be someone?

    My parents would have loved to come here legally, and they would have tried if immigration laws were fairer. Unfortunately, they didn't want to wait until I turned 20 to come to the U.S. because by then it would have been somewhat pointless.

    This has become my country, despite what you say. I want to study and work and pay taxes HERE, not in a country I barely remember and don't feel close to. I have been paying international rates in college for 3 years, out of my own pocket, helping the economy. I don't want anyone to hold my hand and give me a "free pass." I want to work hard and graduate, work and pay taxes, do things to benefit my community and my country (the U.S.)

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/06/2009 @ 05:40PM PT

  9. Khyron Elric

    Maria don't listen. I know that because our experiences we know that value of a paper, pencil and a lesson...

    Posted by Khyron Elric on 03/14/2009 @ 12:46AM PT

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  11. "Just like me, there are thousands of students facing the same obstacles. We consider ourselves American, but are denied the opportunity to attend college and work legally. We don't want or expect "freebies." What we want is a chance to prove what an asset we can be to this country we call our home. We want to be the future nurses, doctors, teachers, and engineers that will shape this country's future and continue to make it great."

    Maria,

    You are an asset to this country!  And all that you are asking is to be given a chance to prove it.  Unlike your critics, you have had to work twice as hard to prove yourself because nothing was ever handed to you. I think you would make a passionate advocate for the ACLU because you understand what injustice feels like. (btw, that's a wonderful organization...I get their newsletter every month, so I know all the incredible work they do on behalf of immigrants, etc, and the Constitution.)  

    Please ignore the insensitive and ignorant comments of the nativists (obviously they have nothing better to do with their time).  I hope you will continue your education so that you can contribute your skills, talent and enthusiasm to the country you love.  This IS your country, too. Thank you for inspiring us with your story, Maria. I admire your spirit. 

    Posted by a d on 03/06/2009 @ 06:28PM PT

  12. Tony T

    "Please ignore the insensitive and ignorant comments of the nativists (obviously they have nothing better to do with their time). "

    So anyone who does not share your opinion is a nativist,  insensitive, and ignorant.

    You need to reexamine your posts because comments like that and like your "White" comments paint you as a racist.

    Posted by Tony T on 03/06/2009 @ 11:07PM PT

  13. Tony, do you have a job, or anything else to do besides trolling these boards and harassing young women? Oh yeah. You're a great example of an "American." Not in my world.

    Posted by Kristen S on 03/09/2009 @ 01:30PM PT

  14. Mary Pranzatelli

    Both Lisa and Maria are great Americans and shortly their dream will come true. I have faith in the American system and it will come through for the both of you. Both these women will fight to improve the future of this country with their determination and their innovations. Lisa, Maria and Kristen are my band of sisters, together we will move immigration reform forward.

    Posted by Mary Pranzatelli on 03/11/2009 @ 10:41PM PT

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  16. Maria M.

    You must have not read my post, because I pay INTERNATIONAL rates at the moment, way higher than out-of-state tuition.

    As much as it might bother you, I'm not going back to my country of origin because if I did, I would not be able to come back.. and this is my country, and the country where I want to realize my dreams.

    Like I already mentioned, I'm not asking for a "free pass" or expect to get things easily. Not to mention the fact that because it's so difficult for me to go to school, it makes me more determined to fight for what I think is right.

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/06/2009 @ 07:22PM PT

  17. Maria M.

    Thanks for your support, Lisa! I really appreciate it.

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/06/2009 @ 07:23PM PT

  18. Alex Shqipe

    Maria, very nice story... the responses your giving these people, I and many others have given before; this and many other sites as well.

    They call themselves Americans, yet they only get on change.org to comment on immigration issues.

    DING DING, help your country and post or donate to other issues as well. Help the homeless or join health care, help kids with autism... damn it just do something else in this site besides posting on this issue.

    If you want your voice to be herd, go to school, get good grades and become a senator, congressman or mayor... so you can present your thoughts in a more broad manner... gosh, aren't there other issues that concern your for your country.

    Posted by Alex Shqipe on 03/06/2009 @ 07:39PM PT

  19. Keith Thom

    Hey alex,
    senators, congressmen, and mayors are all elected officials that are supposed to be our voice. They are not supposed to represent their own thoughts. That is one the biggest problems we face today.
    Let's look at it from the perspective of she attended public school for free, which the whole public school system is unconstitutional to begin with. Now she admits that she is attending college and paying for it herself. I greatly admire her for that. There are so many other stories on this site about not having this or that but to find someone willing to work for what they want and having to give up some things to get others is fantastic. It's called personal responsibility. Now my other problem is if she doesn't have a SS # is she and her family paying taxes on the money they earn to stay here in the US? It took a friend of mine seven years to become a citizen. He and his family did everything the right way payed their taxes started in apartments and now own two homes. It is possible to do it the right way. It's not easy and good things often require work to get.

    Posted by Keith Thom on 03/14/2009 @ 06:12PM PT

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  21. Carlos  Hernandez

    Maria, 
    I commend you on your accomplishments and your drive.  They are testament of what it is to be an American.  Many take the meaning of "American" as black and white and fail to note the merits of the individuals.  Many take their citizenship for granted.  Many concentrate their efforts on semantics and opt to penalize excellence, intellectual excellence. Keep on working hard because those against you will keep on placing blame on others for their own shortfalls. 

    Posted by Carlos Hernandez on 03/06/2009 @ 07:52PM PT

  22. Alex Shqipe

    I agree

    Posted by Alex Shqipe on 03/06/2009 @ 08:12PM PT

  23. Carlos  Hernandez

    You're loosing the point here Tony.  The issue we're addressing here is that of individuals brought here as minors. We're not addressing complete immigration reform nor are we advocating complete open borders. 

    We're advocating the recognition of the predicament these bright individuals face and recognition for the potential benefit they are to this nation. Give credit where it'd deserved, stop concentrating on semantics and lets talk about DREAM as a solution to recognize the potential of these individuals. They would in fact benefit a nation in need so please save your opinions 'of the economy' because all studies show that in an economic downturn an educated workforce is invaluable, thus the DREAM Act.  

    Posted by Carlos Hernandez on 03/07/2009 @ 03:18AM PT

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  25. Tony T

    Let's examine the 14th Ammendment to the U.S. Constitution shall we?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clause

    "During the original debate over the amendment Senator Jacob M. Howard of Michigan—the author of the citizenship clause—described the clause as excluding not only Indians but “persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”["

    And furthermore,

    "The following persons born in the United States are explicitly citizens:

    Children born to U.S. citizens Children born to aliens who are lawfully inside the United States (resident or visitor), with the intention of amicably interacting with its people and obeying its laws"

    If your parents are not lawfully in this country and you are born in this country you are NOT an American.

    Seeing as how your parents are both illegal,  and you were not born here,   I hope you can clearly understand why you are not a citizen.

    Hoping and dreaming wont change that.    Your time would be better spent returning to YOUR country in an effort to reform it's politics and economy.      

    Posted by Tony T on 03/07/2009 @ 09:33AM PT

  26. Miriam Mejia

    Nice, quote the ammendment (from the resourceful site "wikipedia") that did not even include women as citizens. Just because its a law does not make it right. Yes, i said it. Also, note that you quote an amendment, a correction to the existing law. Thats all that is going on here. 

    Posted by Miriam Mejia on 03/14/2009 @ 09:01PM PT

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  28. Carlos  Hernandez

    You're really diverting now debating citizenship and 'being American'... legally I'll be a citizen in a month? by law that is what I'll claim yet for you it doesn't matter, but I thought the law of the land is what prevails? Make up your mind, do you believe in the law or not?  You seem a bit confused there kid. 

    As far as returning and reforming our country of origin? Really?You expect an American raised individual to know where to start such revolution? They probably don't know much more than you do of the country so how do you justify sending the blind to lead the blind and reform a complete country? Great logic there genius. 

    Coming to America is not the easy way out by any means but it's the place where you could truly experience the benefits of capitalism through hard work.  If working and studying hard to achieve your goals is your definition of the 'easy way' then by any means blame us. 
    Lastly, I understand that there is a great tendency to develop a protectionist stance in hard economic times but read and you'll see DREMies would be of benefit in these hard time.

    Posted by Carlos Hernandez on 03/07/2009 @ 08:08PM PT

  29. Tony T

    Carlos,  You have no credibility with this statement,

    "You're really diverting now debating citizenship and 'being American'... legally I'll be a citizen in a month?"

    It doens't even make any sense in context of our conversation.   Are you here legally?   IF so you are not an illegal,  which is the subject of our discussion.

    And this statement has a vital error,

    "You expect an American raised individual to know where to start such revolution?"

    Illegals are not Americans,  so your statement is completely biased.    You seem a bit confused there kid.   Maria is not an American.

    "Coming to America is not the easy way out by any means"

    Well what do you call it then?   An individual flees their country instead of taking the difficult measure of politicaly reforming their own country.   They do so because life is "easier" in the the country they choose to tresspass on.   If that isn't taking the easy way out nothing is.

    The best benefit the DREAMIES could afford to America is to vacate the premesis so that Americans can utilize the jobs and resources illegals leach every day.   This country has hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans.   We have not use,  or need,  for a wave of trespassers.

    Posted by Tony T on 03/08/2009 @ 07:55AM PT

  30. Maria M.

    I realize I'm not a U.S. citizen, Tony. But just becacuse I'm not a U.S. citizen doesn't mean I'm not American. I have been living in this country for almost 10 years, how can I not feel close to this country and consider it my home??

    Also, coming to this country is definitely not the easy way out. Undocumented immigrants risk their lives by coming here. Do you really think it is an easy decision to leave your country, your family, and your life in order to seek a better one in the U.S.? That's the decision these people have to make in order to survive. How can you stay in your country and "fight" for reform when you don't have a job or food to eat?

    However, DREAM Act beneficiaries did not make the decision to come to this country. We've grown up here, and we have worked hard to get to where we are. If there was a way to apply for legalization, we would have done so a long time ago. But there is none.

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/08/2009 @ 09:28AM PT

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  32. Carlos  Hernandez

    Tony: "If your parents are not lawfully in this country and you are born in this country you are NOT an American.

    Seeing as how your parents are both illegal,  and you were not born here,   I hope you can clearly understand why you are not a citizen."

    Here you tried to prove a point on being an American and being a citizen.  Did not prove a single point and just went off in two directions. My parents are illegal and I was not born here but legally will be a citizen in a month.  So I hope you clearly understand that your argument fails.  By law I'll be a citizen in a month, but by my ideals I've been American like Maria for years. We're not discussing the definition of a citizen, but emphasizing our embodiment of what it is to be American.  Maria never called herself a citizen, just American. Quit concentrating on semantics.  


    Regarding your second argument I said 'American raised'...which is what Maria and a lot of us are, raised the American way.  If you want to concentrate on semantics we have all the right to call ourselves American for we were born within the American continents right?  Or does the U.S. hold complete owenership of that?  I mean we can call anyone from Europe European, and from Africa Africans.  If you're going to concentrate on definitions of the word don't be too vague.  Granted, we're referring to the U.S. when we talk about being American, but you just seem to base your argument on your belief that legally she can't herself that. Again Maria never called herself a citizen, just American. 

    The best for DREAMies and the U.S. is for the DREAM Act to pass so they can start contributing back into this economy timesfold what they can as undocumented.  That'd be the best thing for them and the U.S. 

    Posted by Carlos Hernandez on 03/08/2009 @ 09:48AM PT

  33. Tony T

    So Carlos,  your parents are illegal and you will be a us citizen in one month.  Congratulations.

    Your first act as a law abiding citizen must be turning in your parents and all the other illegals who you have knowledge about their where-abouts.

    Posted by Tony T on 03/08/2009 @ 02:20PM PT

  34. Carlos  Hernandez

     I have other plans.  ; )  

    Posted by Carlos Hernandez on 03/08/2009 @ 02:30PM PT

  35. Janeth Herrera

    You are awesome Mr. Hernandez

    Posted by Janeth Herrera on 03/14/2009 @ 03:15PM PT

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  37. Transitionland .

    Am I the only person who thinks the "My name is ___ and I am an American" feature on this site is both cruel and pointless?

    Dave, I know why you do this, but I think you might want to reconsider what you're achieving with these pieces.

    Posted by Transitionl... . on 03/08/2009 @ 11:41AM PT

  38. Tony T

    No,  I do not think the "and I'm an American" feature is cruel or pointless.

    This board exists for the purpose of Americans discussing American politics and events.

    If an individual is not legally an American citizen their opinions on the matter bear inconsequential weight.   Only the views of American citizens are of consequence.

    Posted by Tony T on 03/08/2009 @ 02:23PM PT

  39. Carlos  Hernandez

    Poor Tony doesn't even know his own laws.  Here is an excerpt from a U.S. citizenship test study guide.
    Tony said:  "If an individual is not legally an American citizen their opinions on the matter bear inconsequential weight.   Only the views of American citizens are of consequence."
    51. What are two rights of everyone living in the United States?▪ freedom of expression▪ freedom of speech▪ freedom of assembly▪ freedom to petition the government▪ freedom of worship

    Notice how freedom of expression and speech applies to everyone living in the U.S. and it's not reserved for citizen.  Furthermore, note the FREEDOM TO PETITION GOVERNMENT ... Wow!

    Posted by Carlos Hernandez on 03/08/2009 @ 02:38PM PT

  40. With all due respect, I applaud Dave Bennion for  this forum and for allowing the voices of the undocumented to be heard.  They have been forced to live in the shadows for far too long.  Yet, like Maria, they are articulate, resourceful and intelligent students who quite able to speak for themselves.  The point is to generate support for the DREAM Act, and the high-achieving dreamers are the best folks to make that case.

    Posted by a d on 03/08/2009 @ 04:50PM PT

  41. Dave Bennion

    "This board exists for the purpose of Americans discussing American politics and events."

    I don't know where you got that idea, but it couldn't be further from the truth.  This blog exists for people of any nationality to discuss issues related to migration, citizenship, and human rights.  We happen to talk about U.S. immigration policy a lot because this site is based in the U.S. and I live in Pennsylvania.  But I'd like to expand the topics covered and do it when I have the chance.

    "If an individual is not legally an American citizen their opinions on the matter bear inconsequential weight.   Only the views of American citizens are of consequence."

    That's your view; it's not mine.  And I happen to be moderating this thread. 

    Posted by Dave Bennion on 03/08/2009 @ 06:21PM PT

  42. Tony T

    Dave, if indeed you are an immigration lawyer you should be telling the people you are encouraging to speak that the first ammendment does not guarantee them freedom from prosecution from any illegal activities they reveal in the process.
     
    Particularly when using their real names opens them to direct scrutiny.  Several people in this thread alone have admitted to either violating immigration laws or divulged the information about their parents.

    http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976743890

    "The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the rights of groups and individuals who advocate changes in laws, government practices, and even the form of government. However, the INS can target non-citizens for deportation because of their First Amendment activities, as long as it could deport them for other reasons."

    Posted by Tony T on 03/08/2009 @ 06:57PM PT

  43. Dave Bennion

    That's why I think the DREAMers (DREAMies?) who will no longer stay silent show uncommon courage.  Those who profit from the status quo will do whatever it takes to squash those who challenge it. Your implicit threats attempting to silence the DREAMers are not appreciated.

    Posted by Dave Bennion on 03/08/2009 @ 07:12PM PT

  44. Miriam Mejia

    "...AS LONG AS IT COULD DEPORT THEM FOR OTHER REASONS." non-citizens cannot be targeted for deportation unless there are other reasons. Like Dave said, not appreciated Tony. Low blows! Humans speak up when we have something to say regardless of consequences. 

    Posted by Miriam Mejia on 03/14/2009 @ 09:11PM PT

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  46. Stacey Small

    Goodness.  Such bitterness here.

    Maria, you are welcome in my world.  Your parents brought you here, you grew up here and you are participating in this society by pursuing your education and by engaging in a beautiful feature of the U.S.: freedom of speech.  The U.S. is not a fixed thing; it is a constantly evolving country.  If everyone accepted that because a law exists, no one could oppose it without obeying it at the same time, we would never have accomplished things like getting women the right to vote or getting rid of blatant, legal slavery.

    We all have the right to our opinions and to articulate them.  Thank you for articulating yours, Maria, and again, you are welcomed by me to this country. 

    Posted by Stacey Small on 03/08/2009 @ 12:48PM PT

  47. Maria, you are an American. I wish others would stop treating you and your peers as some sort of scourge. You are the future of this country and I look forward to seeing you and your peers (including my children) sweep the bigotry and racism that has guided "policy" for the past 20 years, out of the door.

    I'm glad you learned your history - at least now you know that the United States has a history of racism, bigotry and denying simple civil rights to anyone perceived as "different." I hope you make it to the ACLU and beyond.

    You are worthy. You are a good person. No one can take that away from you, no matter how hateful their words are. When someone speaks ill of immigrants, they only show how shuttered in their own minds and hearts are. America is a nation of immigrants. How soon we forget.

    Posted by Kristen S on 03/09/2009 @ 01:27PM PT

  48. Tony The Tiger wrote:

    "Why don't you and your family strive for political change in your country?  Why don't you try to remedy your country's problems?"

    If your ancestors had followed this advice they never would have come to this nation.

    There would have never been a Plymouth Rock if this advice had been taken by the Pilgrims.

    So it is right for your ancestors to seek a better life than the one they were living back in the "old country" but it is not right for others.

    Oh, that is right, they came in through that imaginary front door.

    Front door=Europeans get on ship and come to America. Get checked on Ellis Island. Bingo!


    Posted by Pete Coyotl on 03/09/2009 @ 09:45PM PT

  49. Greg Plotkin

    Pete, you hit on the most important point here. 

    Unless any of us are full-blooded Native Americans, one time or another our families immigrated to this country.

    That's right Tony, YOU'RE AN IMMIGRANT!

    Whether or not this was done legally is moot to me, as I've never believed the movement of humans could be regulated by powerful men (or women) and abritrary lines.

    OF COURSE, we need immigration policy in this country.  Heck, every country needs an immigration policy. 

    However, immigrants are a vital part of the United States in both the historic context of our nation's founding and their present value to our country's culture and economy. 

    Posted by Greg Plotkin on 03/10/2009 @ 07:32AM PT

  50. Alejandra Garcia

    people don't realize that we all are immigrants.  You're right, native americans are the real americans.  Not to mention the land that was taken from mexico.............why the boundaries, we all are part of this world that is slowly decaying.  Economy, health, education, environment, immigration, etc. are all important issues that people will never agree on.  We need to start respecting each other.  :)

    Posted by Alejandra Garcia on 03/13/2009 @ 05:30PM PT

  51. Reply to thread
  52. Tony the Tiger wrote

    "So anyone who does not share your opinion is a nativist..."

    He added "You need to reexamine your posts because comments like that... paint you as a racist."

    I am throwing the flag and challenging this call.

    Is it racist to call an anti-immigrant a nativist? Lets go to the instant replay booth.

    What did the great anti-immigrant leader, the late Harvard professor, Samuel Hufffington have to say on the matter?

    Huffington wrote in an essay entitled "Reconsidering Immigration: Is Mexico a Special Case?"

    "First of all, we haven’t always welcomed immigrants. The National Immigration Forum, a very pro-immigration outfit, said in one of its publications, In addition to being a nation of immigrants the United States has also been a nation of nativists.' That’s true."

    Huffington embraced the label in this essay. One of the leaders of the anti-immigratin movement did not see the label "nativists" as an insult. Yet, many "nativists" devoid of wit and quick retort simply respond to the label by whining "stop calling me names."

    There is nothing racist in the calling of a nativitist a nativist. There may be something inherently racist in being one but that is another ball game.

    Team Coyotl wins the challenge and will not be charged a time out.


    Posted by Pete Coyotl on 03/09/2009 @ 09:59PM PT

  53. Maria, I am proud of you. In my book, you are an American. I would be proud to have you as a neighbor.

    One day the Dream Act will become reality.

    Sadly, it will be a nightmare for those who have chosen to disconnect from any apathy for the innocent youth who were brought here by their parents.

    best of luck to you and may your quest be filled with blessings.

    Posted by Pete Coyotl on 03/09/2009 @ 10:11PM PT

  54. Maria M.

    Thanks for your kind words, Pete. I really appreciate your support!

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/13/2009 @ 12:21PM PT

  55. Reply to thread
  56. C W

    Don't primary and secondary schools require birth certificates or proof of legal residency when the children are enrolled? If not, documentation should be required so that this type of situation can be mitigated at the beginning.   

    If they are required, this situation resulted from bureaucratic error.

    Either way, Maria (and others in her situation) should be permitted to apply for citizenship since the continuing problem was the result of flawed systems.  She has already put in her waiting period.

    Posted by C W on 03/11/2009 @ 09:09AM PT

  57. Dave Bennion

    Don't primary and secondary schools require birth certificates or proof of legal residency when the children are enrolled?

    No, the 1982 Supreme Court case of Plyler v. Doe made it illegal for public schools to refuse to enroll undocumented children.  The Court reasoned that denying these kids a proper education would likely contribute to "the creation and perpetuation of a subclass of illiterates within our boundaries, surely adding to the problems and costs of unemployment, welfare, and crime."

    But I agree, Maria has waited long enough.

    Posted by Dave Bennion on 03/11/2009 @ 06:04PM PT

  58. C W

    Thanks, Dave.  I'm obviously a neophyte in this area. I do oppose illegal immigration because of population growth and because it is unfair to people who try to immigrate legally. But deporting the children of illegal immigrants who have been in the U.S. for several years is ridiculous.

    Posted by C W on 03/12/2009 @ 05:42AM PT

  59. Maria M.

    Cecily, thanks for understanding how difficult and unfair our situation is. We truly consider this country our home and want to be able to get educated, work, and pay taxes here, instead of somewhere else.

    Thanks again for supporting the DREAM Act! Please consider signing our petition at http://dreamactivist.org/take-action-2/petition/

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/13/2009 @ 12:19PM PT

  60. Reply to thread
  61. maria monge

    Maria, I feel your pain. I am in the same situation as you and while it is extremely hard at times, we should feel proud for being who we are. We are Americans in every sense of the word. We are young ladies who strive to become better individuals, who never give up despite so many hardships, who want to fulfill our full potential as students and individuals, and who only want ONE opportunity to suceed. Surprisingly, these characteristics sound too familiar to characteristics that other Americans have possessed in the past like African Americans, women, and many other leaders and activists who fought for a cause. Why are we any different from them? If we fight hard enough one day we will see our stories in history textbooks, we will see our success stories and one day we will not only be able to call ourselves "American" by word but also on paper.

    Also, if I want to post my story on this website, how can I do it? I am new here, and I've been trying to find out how but I've had no success.

    Posted by maria monge on 03/12/2009 @ 06:56PM PT

  62. Maria M.

    Thanks for your comment, Maria. You're right, the DREAM Act will pass and we will finally be able to be American on paper, which is the only difference between a U.S. citizen and us.

    You can email your story, along with a picture (doesn't have to be of you, if you're not comfortable with that) to verve@dreamactivist.org.Thanks!

    Posted by Maria M. on 03/13/2009 @ 12:15PM PT

  63. Reply to thread
  64. Mary Pranzatelli

    I am a US citizen Maria and  I have been given all the opportunities and my story is Ive had many friends like you who are hard workers they are intelligent girls like you and some of the best friends Ive ever known. So strange as it many seem I am here to try to protect and defend you. I want the dream Act for you because I believe you deserve just as much as anyone else and so I could tell story's from people Ive known. The East Coast is a very diverse area to live in and our broken immigration system is surfacing to the main stream and if you tell your story you will find that most people are on your side. Once they see how brillant and kind hearted you are they want to give you that piece of paper. You are as American to me Maria as I am to you and the truth is its just a piece of paper away and that is just a matter of time.

    Posted by Mary Pranzatelli on 03/13/2009 @ 03:24PM PT

  65. Mark Beasley

    Yes, Maria, there is a 'Santa Clause'.

    You ARE an American. Why? Because you said you wanted to be. Wanna guess what I am going to be? I am going to be an underwear model. Why? Because I want to be.

    I look like a cross between Meat Loaf and a bloated walrus on a good day, but you have inspired me. I am going to follow your example and disrespect and discard things like laws and reality. I want to make the salary of (and help the economy by paying the taxes of) an underwear model, so -poof- I am.

    Something that occurs to me, though, is that while you were fortunate enough to trespass onto American soil, many others cannot. You are physically here so I am going to assign you the label, Physicalist (kind of like Nativist) and accuse you of hatred toward the “Wishfulists” – people who wish they could illegally enter the US like you did, but can’t. It’s not their fault they can’t physically be here (it’s of course the Nativists’ fault) so let’s get them their rightful welfare, health, housing and education compensation in the mail right away. If you are against that, then you are a hate-filled bigot. I hope you are not that because you are an American now. Welcome your new fellow American, Saddam bin Taliban – because guess what – he IS an American, too. Why? Because he wants to be, just like you. To keep him out would be Nativist! Eww!

    You have good qualities that make you the kind of person that Americans (even Nativists) want to see become LEGAL citizens. I realize that there is a Catch 22 in the machinery of becoming a citizen legally. Americans (even Nativists – I know because I am a proud one) are interested in finding a solution to that. The pathway to that solution is not to start things off by ignoring and disrespecting our laws.

     

    I look forward to further discussion with you,

    Mark B.

     

    Posted by Mark Beasley on 03/13/2009 @ 05:31PM PT

  66. Alex Shqipe

    lol meat loaf, ur a funny mammal :)

    Posted by Alex Shqipe on 03/13/2009 @ 06:13PM PT

  67. Dave Bennion

    Meatloaf, you're going to have to send us a picture so we can assess your earning potential as an underwear model.  The difference between your aspirations and Marias is that there's no legislation waiting in the wings to help you realize your dreams, and even if there were, you might not find too many people willing to support it.

    Also, where did Maria or any of the other DREAMers ask for "welfare, health, housing and education compensation"?  Your assumption that they did or would says more about you than them. 

    You even seem to agree with the DREAM Act in principle.  But then ... "The pathway to that solution is not to start things off by ignoring and disrespecting our laws."  (Nice of you to lay this at the feet of people brought here as children or infants.)  So which is it?  Is DREAM a reasonable solution or do you just want everyone to leave and wait 10 years to come back, if they can come back at all? 

    Posted by Dave Bennion on 03/14/2009 @ 06:57AM PT

  68. Reply to thread
  69. Miriam Mejia

    So an American is not someone who is proud to live in AMERICA? to feel patriotism, to be proud of this country, to LOVE this country, to be willing to fight for this country? Is it not a mentality, a differential from every other country in the world? Is it not a culture? I am sorry but if you don't think it is, then you are not an American. You are just an American-citizen and the problem with America today. If you have the ideas/ power to fight for poverty, and not just complain about it, if you can be less ignorant and realize that if we become legalized we are not going to take your jobs, or are you afraid of a little competition, then America will be a stronger country composed of the best of the best. These arguments against immigrants, minority groups, women, and foreigners have been made before and have never been validated. To turn away bright minds and hard working people is not the smartest thing, but i thought that was obvious.

    Posted by Miriam Mejia on 03/14/2009 @ 09:28PM PT

  70. Jack Bozeman

    I've read the blogs.  Most of the posts are complaints about how badly illegal immigrants are treated.  It seems that no one posts ideas or suggestions about how to actually FIX the problem.  Actually, I don't think anyone has posted the problem.  I hear that the immigration system is broken or the immigration laws are broken.  That's kind of like saying that someone is sick.  How do you fix someone that is sick?  Don't you have to know what "sick" really means.  Flu, cold, cancer, broke leg???   Same thing with the immigration laws.  It's not enough to just say they are broken, you have to say HOW they are broken and be specific.  Then explain how to fix these laws so they are fair to EVERYONE involved.

    Interesting word, everyone.  Who does that encompass here?   US Citizens, illegal immigrants, the rest of the world.

    US Citizens - people who "legally" have that "nine-digit-number".  People who vote on and decide the laws that we live by.  A small Group of US Citizens actually caused the problem that we are currently facing.

    Illegal Immigrants - People who do NOT "legally" have that "nine-digit-number", sometimes through no fault of their own, but mostly by their own volition.  They, or their parents, broke the law to get into the US.  The very nature of their presence in the US "requires" them to continue to break the law on an almost daily basis in order to remain here.

    the "rest of the world" - again, interesting.  This is made up of three separate groups.  Those who do not care, those waiting in line (Hopeful Immigrants) to get into the US "Legally", and leaders of foreign countries.

    Hopeful Immigrants - these are people who have been waiting in line patiently, to get into the US legally.  Many of these are from the same countries that the illegal immigrants came from.  These are people that, in general, I think will make good citizens.  They started out in this country by following the laws, not by breaking them.  The US allows thousands, out of tens of thousands, of these people into the country every year. 

    Leaders of Foreign Countries - These Public figures require that all US Citizens caught in their country illegally be treated as criminals.  Yet there are a number of these "Public Figures" who very actively condemn the US for doing exactly the same thing, and condone their citizens breaking the law in their country, as well as breaking the law in the US.

    So tell me what exactly is broke, and how to fix it, so that it is fair to everyone.

    Following my own rules about posting recommendations and opinions:
    I am 56 years old, southern Baptist raised, Six years active duty in the US Military.

    Opinion - Illegal Immigrants that post on these blogs are, if anything, the exceptions.  There are somewhere between 12 million and 21 million illegal immigrants in this country illegally.  There are literally thousands of this number that are exceptional.  The tragedy is that under legal circumstances these people would make excellent citizens.  However, the internet and cable news ensures that these people are knowingly, daily, showing a complete disregard for this countries laws.  Why should I accept these people into my country as my next door neighbor's? 
    The average Illegal Immigrant is less apt to speak english, feels pride for "his" (or her) home country (NOT the US), sends money to his home country to support his family (i.e. his family, and therefore his home, is not in the US).  There is no pride in the US, and therefore no curtesy for US Citizens.  Again, why should I accept these people into my country as my next door neighbor's?

    The standard legal Immigrants work to get into this country.  They have pride in a country that accepts them in much the same way a family accepts an adopted child.  They know english because it is required.  There home is here, because they worked for it.  And both the exceptional and average legal immigrant are people that, on average, make excellent neighbor's that I do not have to worry about.

    Solution:
    FIRST:  Offer citizenship to "anyone" that will join the military for six years active duty, stays for the entire enlistment, completes all requirements for citizenship, passes the test, and gets an honorable discharge.
    To accommodate everyone, make a one time exception for age.  From 18 to 80 as long as they are physically able to perform one of the functions the military needs.  For children that will turn 18 while their parents are in the military, offer the same thing, allowing them to remain in the US until they are old enough to join with parental permission or once they turn 18.  For children that will not be 18 prior to their parents gaining citizenship, grant them citizenship once their parents are granted citizenship.  For those to old or feeble to join the military, allow them to remain as dependents of a citizen, or a soon to be citizen.

    There are some exceptions that would have to be dealt with, however, for the most part those that accomplish this would have done the necessary work to make the US their home.  The vast majority of Veterans take pride in THIS country, because they sacrificed to defend the rights and laws of THIS country.  They would make good neighbors.

    SECOND:  Find each and every US Citizen that has hired an illegal immigrant and prosecute them for breaking the law and hiring that person to begin with.  If convicted they should be sentenced to one day in jail for EACH man-month of illegal labor they paid for.  These people are not only breaking the law, but they are condoning, and exploiting, a sub-culture.  This is both legally, and morally, wrong.


    This post does not adequately convey all of my thoughts and feelings about this subject.  There is much more that I could say about the causes and affects of this problem.  

    The fault for this great tragedy lies MORE with the people that hire illegal immigrants.  Illegal immigrants share a great deal of the rest of the blame, but the citizens who do not speak up and actively tell their elected officials their feelings on this also share in the blame.  When everyone speaks up, the elected officials will act.  BUT, be careful what you ask for, you might get it.....

    Posted by Jack Bozeman on 03/15/2009 @ 04:11PM PT

  71. C W

    U.S. businesses and individuals who hire undocumented immigrants--even individuals who are hiring a nanny--should be receive substantial fines and assets seizure. 

    Undocumented immigrants should be promptly deported. Still, an undocumented child who entered illegally with her/his parents--and was even permitted to go school here--should not be penalized by immigration "system" flaws.

    Posted by C W on 03/15/2009 @ 05:06PM PT

  72. Mary Pranzatelli

    Cecily, Many Americans can hardly afford Daycare for their children and hold a job. Especially single parents. There are not enough workers to fill the nanny positions. If you deported them single female parents would have a struggle finding affordable daycare. Also, the system does not deport the undocumented promptly. They detain them in a way that is costly when it comes to our taxpayers dollars. The only solution is sensible comprehensive immigration reform.

    Posted by Mary Pranzatelli on 03/15/2009 @ 06:42PM PT

  73. Reply to thread
  74. Miriam Mejia

    Jack, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this issue respectfully. You have obviously formulated your opinions based on experience and not just ideologies of most of the country.  
    In this 'forum' its safe to say that our proposed solution for this particular situation is the DREAM act. Immigration reform is needed but there is not just one solution that everyone can agree on, especially, in my opinion, because business owners know that either they cannot afford to pay people at a "reasonable" wage or they just do not want to, hence them being business people trying to get more money and I feel the government acknowledges this and protects them for whatever the reason may be.
    For people like me and Maria who have lived here all their lives (my case, I was months old) and have known no other country, went to elementary, high school, and now college, the DREAM act is the solution. I acknowledge that I am not a US Citizen and I would do anything to become one, pay fines (regardless of who's fault it is). I know that my chances of gaining citizenship after leaving the country to another (which I've known nothing of) for 10 yrs, at least, are slim to none so that is the ultimate last resort. I think it is unfair to me and to so many others like me who are put into this situation. Personally I cannot live a normal life and it is very irratating. But nobody's life is perfect and will never be, but thats my struggle.
    People say to "send all illegals back" but at what cost to the country? Irrational and uninformed statements are made everyday. Yes, it is a problem because these lead to hate crimes and increased violence in a now jaded society and it needs to stop.
    I am 100 percent confident in the people who will benefit from the DREAM act because we know what its like to have lived a life of mediocrity by not being able to reach our full potential.

    Posted by Miriam Mejia on 03/15/2009 @ 05:51PM PT

  75. C W

    Thank you, Mary.  Most (if not all) states offer subsidized child care for low income mothers. Undocumented immigrants who work in any capacity are working illegally, and are being exploited.

    Still undocumented children of undocumented immigrants should not be denied citizenship on that ground alone. I agree that if undocumented immigrants are to deported--and have committed no other crime--they should be deported within 24-48 hours.

    The U.S. immigration non-system is broken, and the policies and procedures are unnecessarily complex.

     

    Posted by C W on 03/16/2009 @ 08:52AM PT

  76. Daniel Alvarez

    i am a 4 year old alien my ancestors discovered california, nevada, texas...... today i live in a city called Riverside california 92507
    it was once called alta california. as history goes.lolhow do you take indians lands and claim them as yours?i am not a illegal i am a settler  of the american continentchild things are going to get better, soon very soonHow Did Colón Become Columbus
    1492 - in 1492, adventurer/brigand Cristobal Colon lands on an island in the western hemisphere, thinking he has landed in India. The boorish and brutal Colon sent his men out onto the island to loot whatever they could find, and they encounter natives there, who do not take kindly to these Europeans. Colon's ship is attacked that night, and he barely manages to sail away with half his crew still alive. The next island they land at is their last; Colon's attempt to enslave the locals ends ...1842-2009

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 10:58AM PT

  77. Daniel Alvarez

    one word AZTLAN

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:01AM PT

  78. Daniel Alvarez

    viva la revolucion viva la iqualidadviva la livertadviva la oportunidad de vivirviva la razavivan los estudiantes heroesvivan los derechos humanosAmor y paz para el nuevo milenioiqualidad para todosvivan los estados unidos de norte america

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:07AM PT

  79. Daniel Alvarez

    ningun emperio dura para siempre.solamente que sea divino.para entrar en el cielo no se nesecita el xxx-xx-xxxxdios los bendiga hoy manana y siempre

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:11AM PT

  80. Daniel Alvarez

    Don't kick anyone out. they will leave. just keep it up lol...  ..     ..        .0........................   stocks. history repeats its self 1929-09               .                   .                       .

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:20AM PT

  81. Daniel Alvarez

    Don't kick anyone out. they will leave. just keep it up lol...  ..     ..        .0........................   stocks. history repeats its self 1929-09               .                   .                       .

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:20AM PT

  82. Daniel Alvarez

    Don't kick anyone out. they will leave. just keep it up lol...  ..     ..        .0........................   stocks. history repeats its self 1929-09               .                   .                       .

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:20AM PT

  83. Daniel Alvarez

    Don't kick anyone out. they will leave. just keep it up lol...  ..     ..        .0........................   stocks. history repeats its self 1929-09               .                   .                       .

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:20AM PT

  84. Daniel Alvarez

    send your hate mail to dannyca1@yahoo.comthank you for time.

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:22AM PT

  85. Daniel Alvarez

    my apple makes me look like i don't space my words 

    Posted by Daniel Alvarez on 03/19/2009 @ 11:23AM PT

  86. J Ceballos

    I am a native american.  I'm a cherokee to be clearer, well I think maybe mixed with a little chickasaw as well.  My husband is here illegally.  We got four kids.  I don't have a job.   OK here's the catch 22.  I can't afford to support us on my own and pay for immigration fees.  So instead of him having to go to Mexico to wait for a visa, how about let's pay a fine, waive the visa, and just keep up with all the paperwork.  It's not right that he has to drive to work with no license everyday, but what else do we do?  We know our life being in complete chaos is only a license check away, but what do we do?  Is is so crazy to think that maybe, just maybe we could come up with a realistic idea to deal with the problem while being sensitive and fair? 

    Posted by J Ceballos on 03/20/2009 @ 05:02PM PT

  87. J Ceballos

    How come when I say something no one wants to talk back?  I would like some feedback

    Posted by J Ceballos on 03/28/2009 @ 09:46AM PT

  88. J Ceballos

    How come when I say something no one wants to talk back?  I would like some feedback

    Posted by J Ceballos on 03/28/2009 @ 09:46AM PT

  89. J Ceballos

    How come when I say something no one wants to talk back?  I would like some feedback

    Posted by J Ceballos on 03/28/2009 @ 09:47AM PT

  90. C W

    Mrs. Ceballos--Maybe no one talks back because there is no point in hurting your feelings. The U.S. is facing an extreme population increase over the next 40 years--a 40% increase, to 439 million. 71.7% of U.S. women are trying to reduce this threat by having two or fewer biological children, but you seem to have decided you are superior so you can have four.

    You admit your husband is here illegally, and that he drives (illegally) without a license.  I have to have a driver's license, so does everyone I know.  Even those who do not drive have to have a "non-driver's" license in order to access their bank accounts and get on a plane. 

    Your best bet, even though it is cruel, is to assume that he will be found out, and that he will be deported. (If this doesn't happen, you're ahead.) If this happens, your children will need help, so check into WIC, Subsidized Nutrition Assistance Program ("food stamps"), subsidized housing, and subsidized child care so you can work.  (Be very careful at this stage about what information you give so you are not responsible for his being deported.)

    This is probably not what you wanted to hear.


    Posted by C W on 03/28/2009 @ 10:48AM PT

  91. Mary Pranzatelli

    Did you say; no point in hurting her feelings. Ouch!! Cecily I would not adviseJ. Cebellos to prepare that her husband will be deported because he is one out of 12 million and the odds are he will be driving around until the immigration reform bill passes and nothing will happen. This is reality. Cecily this is probably not what you want to hear. The longer this bill is procrastinated...the worse the situation gets for everyone. Getting everyone out of the shadows is best for America. As far as the drivers license system, insurance and access to bank accounts...there are plenty of loopoles out there because our system is changing from state to state and this is not going to turn around. Im not sure about the laws in your state but around here if they pull him over he just gets slapped with a fine and he pays the clerk. What I advise to J. Cebellos is (move up to a northern state) in a town were your husband can walk to his job or get on the train. It might cost alot less and he can make more money up here. I dont know where you live but on the East Coast many of the towns treat immigrants well and you will feel welcome in an immigrant town.  Also J., do not let the people posting make you scared...the odds are the reform bill will pass and everything will be fine. As far as food stamps...apply and see what happens. Hang in there J. for there is HOPE!

    Posted by Mary Pranzatelli on 03/28/2009 @ 07:51PM PT

  92. Mary Pranzatelli

    J. C. as far as lawyers and paper work I would write Dave and ask him where you can go and what you can do. Maybe there might be a inexpensive alternative??

    Posted by Mary Pranzatelli on 03/28/2009 @ 08:00PM PT

  93. Marissa  Babe

    I am undocumented and i am a college student. I don't pay the huge fees since i found the AB 540.

    IF YOU ARE UNDOCUMENTED YOU CAN, YES CAN, GO TO COLLEGE AND PAY RESIDENT FEES. ($26 a unit)

    Look it up. its just one simple piece of paper to fill out.

    Please let anyone undocumented know they CAN GO TO COLLEGE, theres always a way.

    Posted by Marissa Babe on 10/08/2009 @ 12:59PM PT

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